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threedogs61 · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject:

Is a free flow air filter one of the round ones? If I purchase one does it hook up straight to the carb which I assume means that the old air filter box needs to be removed? There are also two breather type air lines that currently hook up to the existing air cleaner. What do I do with these?

Just bought a Jonway YY50QT-20.

thruss91 · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject:

let the breather lines dangle somewhere so oil doesnt go everywhere. and yes the go straight onto the carb I think theyre about 38mm roughly.
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FTRINIDAD · Joined: 25 Jun 2008 Posts: 1 Karma: 0

Is there some one in the seattle area that knows how to derestrict these scooters?? please help... also how hard is this to do??

maxxspeed · Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 2 Karma: 0

Hello,

Here Maxxspeed. A few weeks ago I bought a BT49QT-19. (retro scooter) Is it also possible to do something with the exhaust so that it can drive about 55 km/ hour.

Best regards,

Maxxspeed.

quote="Ginger Phil"]Big thanks to Billy Green for this step-by-step guide on how to derestrict a Baotian BT50QT9D. Cool

If you have a 125cc machine, dont bother, they aren't restricted!

Firstly I must remind you that while it’s not illegal to de-restrict a scooter/moped, it is illegal to ride one without the correct licence and insurance. Also this information is intended as a guide only, I am not responsible for any damage caused to your bike while using this guide. The responsibility for this lies with you!

Now on with the good bit!!

First you need to make sure you have the right tools, a medium size Philips (Cross head) screwdriver, a pair of pliers, and some electrical tape.

There are two parts to this de-restriction. First the CDI unit electronically restricts the engine. This restriction is easy to overcome. You need to disconnect the thin PINK wire under the body panel on the right side of the scooter (Photo)

The pink wire may be easier to find at the CDI unit in the battery compartment. There will be either 5 or 6 wires connected to the CDI.

If you only have 5 wires at the CDI plug, your scooter doesn't have the electronic restriction.
When you have disconnected this wire you will need to cover the ends with the electrical tape. DO NOT DISCONNECT ANY OTHER WIRE. The pink wire sends information about the speed of the back wheel to the CDI unit. If the CDI unit doesn’t receive this info (because we disconnected it!) it thinks you are not moving and will allow the engine to go to full throttle.

The second thing we need to do is a little more complicated, but still quite easy. We need to allow more petrol and air into the engine. Firstly petrol. Open the seat and you should see a cover in the bottom of the storage compartment.

Opening this cover by removing the silver screw will give you access to the Carburettor.

Remove the black circular cover (2 screws) VERY CARFULLY. There is a spring under this cap and it will pop out if you are not careful. When you have removed the cover you should see this...

Now carefully remove the rubber seal and the yellow disc will come with it. Inside this part there is a white plastic ‘Plug’ and a metal needle two small washers on it. One is loose and will fall off never to be seen again, if your not careful, and the other is fixed to the pin in a groove at the top. There should also be a small rubber washer, but this may still be in the bottom of the plastic tube. DON’T LOOSE THIS RUBBER WASHER.

Now you need to remove the fixed washer. You can do this by using the pliers to pop the washer off. Be sure not to bend the needle, it is easy done and would make it unusable! The washer now needs replacing onto the needle, but now, place it onto the middle groove. See photo...

Now you need to put everything back together. Replace the black rubber seal and tube into the carb first. When you do you will need to ensure that the small lug is lined up with the recess in the carb top, and that the seal is seated correctly.(See Photo)

Make sure the rubber washer is in the bottom! Now place the loose washer onto the needle under the fixed washer and place the needle into the hole at the bottom of the tube. Now place the white plastic plug into the tube, with the hole down.

On the under side of the black cap there may be a brass screw in the centre, if there is remove it. It looks either like this or like a long thin hexagonal nut.

Now place the big spring in and replace the cap.

That’s the fuel side of thing sorted. What you have done is to raise the needle a little, this allows more fuel into the carb.

Now we need to sort the air intake out. This is very easy, all you have to do is ensure that the intake hose is not kinked. This is a very common problem.
You can do this a couple of ways. You could place a plastic tube inside the hose to stop it collapsing or you could ‘zip tie’ the smaller tube to the frame, again stopping it from collapsing. I tied the small tube to the frame, see photo.

There may be a third step depending on the importer of your scooter. If you find that you are still not getting more than 35 mph then this may be you problem.

Importers have implemented this restriction in various ways. Currently and applicable to 50QT-7 scooters the restriction is implemented by the addition of a speed restriction ring in the drive pulley. This stops the 2 halves coming close together and increasing the final drive. Removal of this ring is quick and easy and will increase the top speed to around 45 to 50 MPH.

First you need to remove the drive belt cover. Once done you will see this:

You now need to remove the 17mm nut in the centre of the left hand (white) pulley. It is quite hard to remove, I recommend using an impact wrench. Then remove the front half of the pulley.
You will then be left with this...

Next just remove the slip ring from the drive shaft, they look like this, (there will be only one)

Once removed you should be left with the front drive pulley looking like this...

Put everything back together in the reverse order. Tighten the 17mm centre nut using the impact wrench set to 28 ft lbs torque.

You have now de-restricted your Baotian! Cool

A couple of things that would make the bike faster are

Changing the roller weights for lighter ones will increase the acceleration of the scooter. The roller weights that come with the scooter are 16 x 13mm 6.5 grams, I recommend using 4.5 gram rollers

You could also install a larger main jet in the carb. The standard size is around 78 or 80. I would recommend a size 90 and then fit a free flow air filter.

And changing the engine and gear oil for a good quality synthetic oil will make things run faster. Changing the oil should be done after the first 300 Km and then again after a further 300 Km. Doing these oil changes are cheap, but VERY essential.

If you need to, you can re-restrict the bike by putting everything back to how it was! However I would leave the air intake tube as it is.

Many thanks and Happy Scootering!! Twisted Evil

UPDATE!!

I have found out that a lot of the newer bikes, makes and models are all pretty much the same bike as the engine is the same, the derestrictions used before (pink wire, ring in drive pulley, and needle groove) have stopped being used. Instead they are using a smaller main jet in the carb, this restricts the flow of fuel into the engine and as a result slows the bike down. Some are also being shipped with a plastic spacer on the side of the carb, this stops the throttle lever from reaching 'fully open', again this slows the bike down.

I have done a guide on how to change the main jets, just follow this link.

http://taishanowners.proboards41.com/index.cgi?board=mechanical&action=display&thread=1136657880

Thanks again![/quote] Very Happy

J€Di

roadley14 · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: thanks for the quide

cheers for the quide

I'm going to derestric it tomorrow

paulnet12 · Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 11 Karma: 0

Could you tell me where I would get a bigger jet for my Znen Flash 50 carb. please ?

paulnet12 · Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 11 Karma: 0

You mention that the bike comes with 16 x 13mm 6.5 gram rollers and that they should be changed for 4.5 gram rollers.

Does this apply to a Znen Flash 50; what are the 'rollers', where are they situated and how do you change them please ???

px166bajaj · Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:57 am Post subject:

Have a look at good ol' thread 132...

http://chinesescoots.forumwise.com/chinesescoots-thread132.html
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Dakota Cowboy · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: destricting

I have a 2008 yy-50qt-20 from jonway with about 140 miles. I have really enjoyed reading this thread and plan to take my scoot to the hangar and use check the cdi mod out and a few others. have to pull out my metric tools as all my aircraft box has is SAE.

thanks a bunch

Bob

xxxsassysophxxx · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Karma: 0

don't suppose anybody in here knows how to deristrict a sukida dragonfly 50cc??

pretty please.

Thanks sophie x

mr_tazz · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 3 Karma: 0

Hi all, I'm a newbie on here so apologies if this has been discussed before Embarassed

I've just got a Huatian ht50qt-6 (Pulse Storm) - Looking at the CDI it's got 6 wires on the plugs, plus a 7th with a bullet connector straight into the unit.

Unplugging any of the 6 wires seems to make the scooter stop, but unplugging the "flying" lead does not - do you reckon this would be the electronic restrictor on the unit?

Getting fed up of 30mph and cars on my arse....

Cheers

Mike

halley · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Huatian ht50qt-6

Fox · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Huatian ht50qt-6

mr_tazz · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 3 Karma: 0

Errr.....tried unplugging it - scoot did no more than 20mph, so stopped, reconnected it and then rode on. Got back up to 30 and then the scoot died completely!

Pushed it back home and left it for a while as would not re-start.

After about 1 hour it re-started, but still stalls when coming to a stop. Would the CDI have detected that the cable was unplugged and shut down?

Will adjust the idle speed and mix, but still concerned about the fact it lost power.... Crying or Very sad