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den9112

Hi, broke down this morning on the way to work , I warmed the bike for a couple of mins as normal and then set of for my 6 mile journey to work after a couple of miles I lost drive as though the clutch was slipping but I still had max revs , I stopped to check what the problem could be and I noticed oil coming out of the belt/clutch case cover , at first I thought it was gear oil but it was engine oil , I eventually got to work after pushing but I still had power down hill but decided to push as I was losing oil . I took the belt cover off and it looks like the oil was coming in from either back of clutch or rollers as there is no oil near the top end of engine ie head gasket , everywere is dry apart from inside the belt area and the belt is full of oil . I have now got the bike home and I am trying to contact marshys were I purchased the bike , been trying fot 2 hours but no luck .the bike is only 2 months old and as 1000km on clock with proper run in proceedure , good oil and regular changes and a new plug . Can anyone help as what the problem could be as it still is under warranty but it is 200 miles away from were I bought the bike . Any help would be apreciated . Thanks

thruss91 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:22 am Post subject:

oh no! sounds like the seal has gone on the crankshaft! if it is, it's an engine rebuild, it's going to be about £20 for gaskets and new seals. free labour if you do it. don't get worried yet, get the bike home and take the variator off the crankshaft, then inspect the seal round the crankshaft where it goes through the crankcase. I can't imagine how the seal could go so quick! maybe there was a bit of dirt in the seal when the made the engine? ah if you can get hold of them and it's under warranty, they should be able to rebuild it for you. just have a look and try not to touch it. my seal leaked after my first rebuild becuase I didnt replace it, I managed to ride it for a month or so until I had to rebuild it again.
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thruss91 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:24 am Post subject:

oh yeah can you post you location please (set it in you profile at the top of the page)
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den9112 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:31 am Post subject:

A engine rebuild at 2 moths old , I need the bike ,,,I bought new to avoid major problems ,the company I purchased from are 200 miles away . I have only got 1000km on the clock .

thruss91 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:44 am Post subject:

can you take the variator off? if so have a look and see if it's leaking. if it is and you like bodging stuff, get some silicone(mastik as it's known in the building trade) and smear it round the seal, let it dry and see if it holds. before bodging of course, ring up some local bike shops and see what they say.
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den9112 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:48 am Post subject:

I have taken the variator nut off and I can see a brown seal , it looks ok I had to push it back in and the rollers are very oily . I changed the rollers about 6 weeks ago could I have not put evryback as it should . Should I be able to take the seal out or should it b solid . Thanks

den9112 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:00 am Post subject:

I have just had another look at the seal , it looks like a plastic bearing . Should this be pushed in as it was sticking out a touch I have now carefully pushed it home . Hope this makes sense .

jpmacd733 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:44 am Post subject:

den9112 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:48 am Post subject:

Thanks for the reply , dont feel to good at the moment , bike is only 2 moths old and it looks like it as caused some damage just put it allback togrthere and it will not start and it dosent sound good . I saved for a year for the bike . Cannot seem to get in touch with dealer

den9112 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:53 am Post subject:

I think the noise was me not puuting belt and clutch cover on before trying to start .Could you please advice as what steps I should be doing after putting all back togethere . Thanks

den9112 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject:

I have just ordered a new crank seal and I have been told that I can fit it over the exsisting one . As anyone had any experience in doing this job that could help . I have been in touch with the dealer and because I have not had it serviced with a recognised dealer the warranty is no good . I serviced it myself . In the worst case senario does anyone know were I can get a engine for the bike in the uk . Thanks

jpmacd733 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject:

den9112 · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject:

Thanks for trying to help, not much luck with dealer and I not going to get myself in a battle with them , I will try and sort it myself . it is marshys motorcycles and I have just been spoken to like a child , after trying to get in touch for nearly four hours . I am looking for a replacement engine at the moment just to get a idea of cost and whats involved . I will be getting the neew seal tommorrow.

hugh jazz · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject:

say know more mr marsh as a habit of disappearing when needed.

I have already mentioned what problems I went through with marshys in the reccomendeds section.

it would seem we need to spread the word further so people dont fall fowl to this unscrupless dealer.

I'm glad I got my money back from them now but it took a few threats and a little word in is ear. to get it

Yellow Scooter · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject:

How did you get them to answer the phone? Did you block your number? or use an outta town payphone? Perhaps a new-hire didn't know which phone #s or area codes to let ring-out???
It sounds like a lame question to some I'm sure, but this is unfortunatly the norm for some of these dealers that wish to renig the warranty at all cost and treat their bike sales as an "as-is/where-is/how-is/ and even why-is!" purchase Evil or Very Mad

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