Chinese Scooter Club

chaz e z · Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:08 pm starting problem

urgghhh must be the 5th time iv had a problem with my moped now, I put in the new battery, neg first then postive. Try to start it up and instead of the normal starting noise, I could hear a whirring that seemed to be coming from the crankshaft. Me or my dad don't have a clue what it could be.

thruss91 · Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:28 pm

look at the fan when you crank it, then you'll see if the starter mechanism is working properly. maybe the battery needs a charge? if theres not enough umph behine the starter motor, the mechanism wont bite and will spin round making a wirring noise.

DaveH · Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:30 pm

.....also at the risk of stating the obvious check the battery connections are tight/making good contact.

chaz e z · Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:32 pm

I checked they are connected properly and it was definately charged when I put it in. Will it work if I leave the crankcase off?

thruss91 · Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:48 pm

ye just hold a 10 mm socket on the end of the starter mechanism to guide it. when the engine's running hold the mechanism in so so doesnt vibrate out into the variator.

chaz e z · Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:00 pm

Ok thanks I will try it tomorrow

chaz e z · Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:19 pm

ok, I found out it was a fuse, replaced it and made normal starting noise but wouldnt start, dad has checked everysingle part of the carb and not a problem there, I myself don't have any clue what it could be anymore.

jpmacd733 · Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:33 am

chaz e z wrote: ok, I found out it was a fuse, replaced it and made normal starting noise but wouldnt start, dad has checked everysingle part of the carb and not a problem there, I myself don't have any clue what it could be anymore.

OK, give us some help. Can you confirm if there is spark at the plug or not? If you get a spark then the problem is most likely fuel related but if no spark then the problem is electrical.

Joe

Fox · Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:58 am

jpmacd733 wrote: chaz e z wrote: ok, I found out it was a fuse, replaced it and made normal starting noise but wouldnt start, dad has checked everysingle part of the carb and not a problem there, I myself don't have any clue what it could be anymore.

OK, give us some help. Can you confirm if there is spark at the plug or not? If you get a spark then the problem is most likely fuel related but if no spark then the problem is electrical.

Joe

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JumpSteady555 · Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:23 am

Make sure the run / stop switch is ON.

chaz e z · Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:53 am

oh right yeh sorry, there is a strong spark so is it fuel related?

chaz e z · Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:28 pm

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sh*t I took out the start relay to have a look at it and I cant get it back together because the little magnet things on the springs wont stay in so I cant put it back together. if you get me?

DaveH · Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:35 pm

Oops not too sure why you are looking at the start relay if you are getting a strong spark which as you say indicates its a fuel problem but hope you get it sorted mate.

chaz e z · Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:28 pm

yeh I know I realised that after I opened it, I think I'm going to take it to a garage near me that does chinese scooters because I'm getting problem after problem with this one

jpmacd733 · Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:17 pm

chaz e z wrote: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sh*t I took out the start relay to have a look at it and I cant get it back together because the little magnet things on the springs wont stay in so I cant put it back together. if you get me?

It sounds like you took the starter MOTOR apart. Not a good idea. They can be a little tricky to put back together and if you don't get the alignment just right, it may run backwards. You may end up getting a new one.

It sounds like you have a fuel problem anyway, not electrical.

Back to getting the carb apart and cleaned.

Joe